Lucinda's comment about Toytown getting it wrong in the SJ.

I agree, Zara got it wrong for not riding forward. She lost a lot of momentum just before the fence before THE fence(!) and therefore landed short and needed to push on but didn't. That was definately her fault but having got it wrong, Toytown could so have helped her out from where they were - very unlike him not to too! I bet Zara really thought he would as she approached. Such a shame. He seemed a little pre-occupied looking beyond the fence, as he did the second time.

I agree with the person above that Lucinda probably thought it would be too harsh to pile all the blame on Zara when she is clearly devastated already!

[kerilli]

i think if Zara had realised she was in trouble and given him a massive kick to wake him up, and flung him at the fence, he would have got them both out of jail... he certainly has the scope!

[sillygillyhorse]

There were several riders who came down that line and appeared to be rather backwards, Zara was not alone though she perhaps did rather close the canter completely at the fence before. Should imagine she is quite cross with herself.

[MillionDollar]

Zara even said it was HER fault, not Toytown's! That's why she was so upset.

[FRESHMAN]

I agree with a couple of others. Zara made the mistake at the previous fence by over checking, for me it was this that created the problem in the next distance. BTW what was with the comment of 4 for a refusal & 4 for knocking it down (whilst refusing) Surely they either presented or they didnt or have the rules changed in eventing?

[teapot]

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BTW what was with the comment of 4 for a refusal & 4 for knocking it down (whilst refusing) Surely they either presented or they didnt or have the rules changed in eventing?

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that's what I thought too Freshman - I was like what is Tina talking about, which is what Clare Balding was saying too - you either knock it down or refuse, you surely don't get faults for both, do you?

[christine48]

To me it looked like Zara checked too much at the fence before and Toytown half trotted behind. Then she landed slightly short and didn't ride forward enough. Maybe nerves got to her.

[NoCollection]

I think that you get 4 time faults if you knock down the fence as you refuse it. So 4 jumping faults for the stop and 4 time faults for the knock-down.

[dieseldog]

Kristina was talking rubbish, it was kjust 4 for the refusal and then time faults ifshe went over the time. From what I remeber she started hooking like mad before the upright, he crawled over it and was never going to jump the oxer cleanly. He probably made the right descision in stopping

[FRESHMAN]

Nah, you only get time faults on exceeding the time allowed. In some sj speed classes a knock down when jumping the fence can count as 4 secs added. Do any of the eventing bods know the ruling on this one? I really would be interested to know.
You would think Lucinda would get abreast of the rules if she is going to commentate. Bet it's a well paid job.