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Old 08-11-09, 08:12 PM   #11
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Default Re: Is it right for YO to charge instructor to teach??

Oh I should add that it might be more of a fair charge if the lesson means the whole arena has to be booked for the hour and other liveries cannot use it. The arena at my yard is a huge 60x40 and weekdays between 4-7pm only half the arena can be booked so others can still use it but nobody usually books the whole arena anyway as half is plenty to do a lesson in.
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Old 08-11-09, 08:15 PM   #12
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At the yard where my youngest has his lessons I have to pay an extra £1 for his lesson which is the charge the YO has put on as other liveries complained about the amount of time his instructor has in the manege. The fact that she has 4 horses on the yard and uses her own allocated 'schooling time' to teach is neither here nor there
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Old 08-11-09, 08:18 PM   #13
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if the instructor is paying the yard owner isnt she technically hiring the faciilities and therefore the yard owners insurance should cover the instructor leading to the yo requiring a riding school licence?
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Old 08-11-09, 08:18 PM   #14
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If you are a livery and its your horse and instructor then no the instructor should not have to pay, I however have allowed an instructor friend to hire my school to give lessons to people not stabled on my yard, but only during the summer months as we have two schools and a field to use.
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Old 08-11-09, 09:05 PM   #15
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The 1st yard I took my horse to did let Liveries have lessons with other instructors, which she was cool with - until she realised that most of the instructors were better than her & no-one wanted lessons with the YO!! The YO was even giving tuition for free and liveries were still PAYING for outside instruction!! LOL!!
At my new yard the YO gives lessons herself, but for no more money than what I would pay at somewhere like Urchinwood, and her standard is very high so I am more than happy to pay for it - PLUS if you've paid the YO for an hour of her time at least she can't get called away to do something else if you get what I mean!!
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Old 08-11-09, 09:27 PM   #16
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If the instructor is profiting from the yard's facilities, I don't see why the YO shouldn't charge a fee. I don't think it's the same at all as farriers or vets. Course, if someone (a livery, for instance) has hired the school, then nope, no fee should be charged.
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Old 08-11-09, 10:07 PM   #17
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I think this is totally reasonable! I think YO should receive a % of the instructers profit, being that they are using the YOs school. To look at it from there p.o.v they are using YOs school when YO could be teaching in it and earning money, and teaching clients which YO could be teaching..
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Old 08-11-09, 10:25 PM   #18
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I'm really sorry I don't think I have made myself clear. (I often babble )
The yard owner does not teach so is therefore not losing any clients.
The instructor teaches liveries at the yard that are paying for use of facilities (inc arena)
If a livery is having a lesson they do not have sole use of the arena. Instructor is often teaching one person whilst others are using the school.
I hope that's better and makes more sense.
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Old 08-11-09, 10:26 PM   #19
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Alot of freelance instructors do not have the facilities to teach you at their place,so when they are charging upwards of £30 an hr then yes they should pay for the hire of the school in which they are using to earn their wages
Lets face it,how many clients would travel to them in reality?especially when some live miles away...alot just wouldnt,which in turn means said instructor/ess loses money,going to livery yards is guaranteed income,therefore pay something toward the maintenance etc of the schools they are using
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Old 08-11-09, 10:30 PM   #20
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I'm really sorry I don't think I have made myself clear. (I often babble )
The yard owner does not teach so is therefore not losing any clients.
The instructor teaches liveries at the yard that are paying for use of facilities (inc arena)
If a livery is having a lesson they do not have sole use of the arena. Instructor is often teaching one person whilst others are using the school.
I hope that's better and makes more sense.

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YO is right to charge..however as instructress is paying(which will show in cost of said lesson),the school should be the insructors and clients for the length of time of the lesson,she has paid to book her time in the school,so therefore YO wrong to allow others in school....they have to book our school out for lessons,if they dont then yes others will use it
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