OMG Geograph

[chunklovescooks]

0.0 You can post an image of my dog if you happen to photograph it from a
public vantage point. Your comparison however is a little wrong. And
actionable.

> By posting images of
> horses and other POI's of criminals, they can start examining the
> surrounding area before they even get there! I think your unwillingness to
> co-operate with the equestrian community for the sake of a "game" is
> childish!

The equestrian community does a fine job of providing that
intelligence in far more up to date manner than Geograph. Let's take
the House and Hound forum, because I'm an avid reader now. Check the
classifieds section. I chose a horse a random, got a phone number in
Bedfordshire. Googled it, found the address. Checked aerial photo of
house on Google Maps. Checked prices of recent house sales on that
street at houseprices.co.uk - seemed an affluent area. Also got
another google result with the full name and email address of the
owner, with partial photograph and other useful info. From that I got
his approximate age and the names of his wife and other house
occupants from the electoral roll.

Sadly no picture on Geograph but more than enough information for a
little social engineering.

I know I've no chance of winning you over here, but I'm trying to
illustrate that rather more intelligence is out there than you might
imagine, and I would bet that a well motivated criminal gang has even
more sources at their disposal.


Paul

Just got that off him. Does he know all owners dont keep horses at their house?

[carys220]

Does he realise that we don't plan on selling our horses so their and our details are not in the classified section!!!!! D'OH!!!! IDIOT!! And I hope he reads this!!!

[chunklovescooks]

Yeah, we put them on Geograph to be stolen, DUH

[molehill]

I cant believe him.
Why cant he see that what he is doing is causing distress and worry to some people.

[chunklovescooks]

Tri, where abouts in w/yorks are you? no postcodes or grid references please!

[carys220]

[ QUOTE ]
I cant believe him.
Why cant he see that what he is doing is causing distress and worry to some people.

[/ QUOTE ]

Because he is a person without respect for other people's wishes.

[carys220]

Keighley. Horses are further out towards Harden.

[chunklovescooks]

Ah nice one. Yeah, he seems to have little respect for others, then again, photographing other peoples property all the time must get lonly!

[molehill]

Thankyou all for helping me.I will let you know when it gets removed.Fingers crossed it will!

[Leah3horses]

I've posted on the Geograph site to say that insults never help anything..I'm going to get shot down in flames here but can we get this in proportion please...where is the evidence that Geograph is going to encourage horse thieves? How many people on H&H found their horse by responding to a picture on a website in the first place?!

Yes horse thieves are out there, they always have been, sad to say. I believe there is room for horse sites, Geograph and similar to co exist. Google Earth has been around for years, horses can clearly be seen there...and on postcards, calendars,holiday brochures etc and in depth here on H&H and hundreds of other horse websites and magazines. Not to mention cctv in more urban areas.

Objectivity is quite sparse on H&H at the best of times...think we need to keep it calm and think things through.Knee jerk reactions only cause hysteria. I have considered how I'd feel if I saw my horses on Geograph (yes I've looked, they aren't there but there are some lovely pics of very local countryside).I do worry about horse thieves but this hasn't made me worry any more...my security is as good as I can make it.

The day horses are airbrushed out of photos of the countryside is the day paranoia and sensationalism win.