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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    Quote Originally Posted by xCiaraGx View Post

    Sorry bit long winded but I'm want to stress Instead not trying to state the proper way of movement is wrong- just that as a kid on a 500 pony it's not what your gunna get.
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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    Hmmm i wouldnt get too excited that scores will drasically improve. BE tends to use the same BD judges. Yes eventing dressage can for (some) judges be marked with slighlty different main concerns... i.e they normally like a touch more froward for BE and like a relaxed horse, but since ots the same judges normally you more or less get the same marks.

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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    I agree with dominobrown - BD judges judge BE. Some of them are more sympathetic to tension if they can see the horse wants to go jumping and the x-country is right next to the arena. Equally an obedient test that isn't flashy is likely to score highly since the horse isn't showing tension about wanting to go jumping. They also take into account dips in the arena that wouldn't occur in BD on surface arenas

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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    I have competed at BE and BD in the past, I only do BD now, but I teach riders who compete in both disciplines. I do find the BE is a little more lenient, but not massively so, given that both use BD judges.

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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    Quote Originally Posted by xCiaraGx View Post
    I'm just against affiliated marking on young kids- wonder why so many kid prefer jumping- because they're not given low scores and told they "can't"... a pole down is a pole down.
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    I can relate to this and I do think some types score better than others. At least with some judges. My lovely Fell pony did a season of unaff eventing over an affiliated course with the same judges who judge the affiliated events. She was obedient and worked with plenty of energy from behind. She was calm and focused. I really expected to be scoring in the low 30s and we scored over 40! She jumped DC at every event all season but never got a decent test score which did make me think the jumping phases were much more honest. A clear is a clear is a clear.

    Amber has scored quite well in dressage generally despite being FAR less obedient but much more flashy with much better paces, First time out stressage we scored 65% ish to win the class and in a practice ODE last summer (again with 'proper' judges) we scored 36 for a truly terrible, tense test.

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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    Interesting - I know plenty of horses who score far better at BD than BE! BD - quieter, on a lovely surface for both test and working in; sensible times (for the most part); vs. sometimes ridiculously early departure, unlevel working in areas often in a big open space, lots of activity on site, once cross country starts it can be right next to dressage arenas so not conducive to lovely quiet tests - tannoys for SJ and XC and some horses just don't perform as well while others perform better and as previously said sometimes the arena's themselves are like riding on the moon's surface.

    As to scoring it's BD judges so should be scored the same and there are more lenient judges just as there are more draconian ones! I never look at individual score but compare to others in section/class. Also BD your scores tend to be quite consistent whereas BE, you can get a ridiculously low score one week (i.e. a great one) and a ridiculously high one the next time out - often dependent on a) where the XC is situated and b) whether it's started to run!

    BE judges tend to like more forward going horses who are also working correctly so not sure long and low would be well received?

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    Default Re: BE Verses BD Dressage scoring?!

    I have written for a few judges at BD & BE ie same judge at both BE and BD they do not tend to be overly lenient but some will ignore minor "loss of rhythm" (small stumbles) on grass but do not forgive on a surface ( Aston-le-Walls BE ) .

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