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  1. #21
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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    You need a good instructor - however much you think you know your horse is telling you you haven't got it right. It's your responsibility to be the owner your horse needs, not for the horse to fit in with you, how would they know that?
    Lazy and stubborn after having been fine before you bought her, what's changed? You, that's what. Get the idea that you are experienced out of your head, the best riders in the world acknowledge they still have loads to learn, if you are anything of a horsewoman you will take on board what this horse is telling you. She's uncomfortable, she doesn't understand, you are blocking her, she is worried, whatever it is you know the saying "When the student is ready the teacher will arrive". You have yours, learn the skills you need to get the best out of her.

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    I have a good instructor. I am an experienced rider but I know I am no where near the best or the standard I would like to be and have loads to learn. I understand what you mean about adapting to your horse but I do also think sometimes people just don't connect with a horse and have to accept it. I don't believe that HE is uncomfortable as I have had him vetted, his back checked recently and his saddle fitted many times. I understand that he may be confused with my aids, however he is not the kind of horse to worry or get anxious, he is very relaxed. I am going to continue working with him and see where we go. No offence, but your tone is a bit patronising, I may be young but I know horses, I don't know everything about them obviously and I wasn't trying to insinuate that I do.

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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    Are you riding with your leg on the horse? Also, how fit is he?
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    Hi thanks for everyones comments! I rode him this evening and had a much better ride, he was much more focussed and I feel I rode more positively which is really good. I worked on some different stuff, I did spiralling in and out of a 20m circle to work on his bend and flexion and worked on some leg yield which is beginning to come on well! I am also going to go to my instructors yard(my old yard of 10 years!) to have a lesson to get him out and about and not have everyone watching me! A few people mentioned about changing his feed which I stupidly had not thought about. He is just having a scoop of plain pony nuts morning and evening which I don't think is very substantial considering I ride him 4-5 times a week and he is a finer horse. I have also done some research and worry he is not getting enough protein as he is not going out at the moment? I dunno pony nuts just seem a bit plain and boring for him. Does anyone have any suggestions? Preferably a feed combo or just a type that will help build him up a bit more across his top line and his back, give him a bit more energy without making him too fizzy! Thank you.

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    He is not really fit but I have noticed he is getting fitter as he has definitely built up more muscle and I find I am riding for longer periods of time without him dying!! Yes I constantly have my leg on which I think is why it is starting to lose effect. I ride with a long crop and give him a tap occasionally to keep him forward but would rather not!

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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
    Thank you for your reply I have considered changing his feed, but part of me thinks he's just one of those horses.
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    I know I should probably know but I just didn't consider changing his feed. The breeder is a very experienced horsewoman and I guess I just trusted her as she bred him I dunno. I realise now that I should look into it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
    A few people mentioned about changing his feed which I stupidly had not thought about..

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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    Mine would be ecstatic if they got a scoop of pony nuts twice a day, that should be plenty for most horses in light work but it is not something I would feed as it has more starch and sugar than I like, that said with your livery package making changes could be complicated, as long as he gets ad lib hay or haylage he should be getting enough to maintain his condition, I would be more concerned with a young horse stuck in a stable with no turnout and only being ridden 4 or 5 times a week, does that mean he stays in 2 or3 days with no exercise?
    Being in so much is probably contributing to how he feels, most horses, especially young ones, need time out in the field not stood in a box with no time out to stretch their legs, play and be a horse.

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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kendall View Post
    I have a good instructor. I am an experienced rider but I know I am no where near the best or the standard I would like to be and have loads to learn. I understand what you mean about adapting to your horse but I do also think sometimes people just don't connect with a horse and have to accept it. I don't believe that HE is uncomfortable as I have had him vetted, his back checked recently and his saddle fitted many times. I understand that he may be confused with my aids, however he is not the kind of horse to worry or get anxious, he is very relaxed. I am going to continue working with him and see where we go. No offence, but your tone is a bit patronising, I may be young but I know horses, I don't know everything about them obviously and I wasn't trying to insinuate that I do.
    Perhaps the tone of that response was less than ideal but unfortunately the sentiments are definitely worthy of some thought. In 11 years riding you are highly unlikely to be an experience rider in the terms of the real world, I'm sure that in a Riding School context you would definitely class as an experience rider - there are some interesting old threads in the Tack Room which might give you food for thought. I have nearly 30 years riding experience but I would still class myself as a novice if I was looking for a new horse. The key to this being a successful relationship will be determined by the support you get. It sounds like the existing yard are not supporting you therefore I would look to move, ideally to your instructors place.
    A green but well bred 6 year old is quite a challenge. I always think of 6 year olds as being the teenagers of the horse world - grown up enough to mostly be very polite and well mannered but prone to strops and thinking they know best. How this stage is managed will determine what kind of an adult he really becomes. Has anyone else ridden him since you got him? It might be worth paying the person that broke him to get back on and see how (s)he finds him now. At least it would give you someone who could give an accurate comparison of the situation.
    When were his teeth last done? While it could be a napping/boredom/management issue there is something about this behaviour that is niggling me that he's uncomfortable.
    I wouldn't change his feed just yet. If he is in good enough condition and on plenty of hay/haylage you might just throw uncontrolled exuberant energy into the mix which could become scary.

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    Default Re: I do not get on with my new horse!

    Hi there. Sorry to hear you are not enjoying your new horse. Having read your original post, I do wonder whether you are quite as experienced as you think.
    I assume you have had horse checked physically and are feeding correctly (apologies, I haven't read every reply).

    I wonder if there is a mis-communication between you and the horse and you are reading this as the horse being lazy and stubborn. Do you have a good instructor who can give you an honest opinion? Or perhaps pop on the horse for you and see what they think?
    I suggest this because when my clients explain a problem they are having, with their permission, I like to get on board and experience it for myself. This gives me a better idea of whether the issue is a horse issue, or actually a rider one. Nine times out of ten, it is a rider issue. Not that the rider isn't good, but its like that old analogy that we often don't see what is staring us in the face, especially when we get so hung up on an issue.

    6 years old can be challenging. 4 and 5 year olds are often all sweetness and light, but they hit 6 and get a bit more balanced/strong and a lot more opinionated.

    Without seeing you, the horse, or your riding, I would suggest you find a good instructor, perhaps someone different to who you currently use and go from there.
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