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    Default Sorry....another b+e question!

    After reading the very confusing dsa site im quite confused about what I can and can't do!

    I'm going to do my b+e test soon and have been practising reversing on private land. I want to try and do my test without getting a load of expensive lessons if it can be helped!

    Can I go out on the road with L plates in my pathfinder and 510 with my dad? I thought I couldn't but it's not very clear! This site says I can? http://www.towinghorsetrailers.co.uk...iving_test.htm

    Also any other helpful tips? thanks!

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    You can, yes, with L plates, providing your father has B+E on his license- either grandfather rights or took the test- and has held B+E at least three years, and obviously provided you are insured etc.

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    You can only go out with your dad if he has taken his test. You are NOT allowed out with him on grandfather rights this law has changed.

    Personally, I had lessons with my brother and failed twice then a six month gap and had 2 x 2 hour lessons and passed - would have been so much cheaper if I had had lessons straight away...

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    I'm sorry littlegreymare but that only applies to lorries. Towing grandfather rights are still suitable to supervise- though you are correct in that to supervise ina lorry the supervisor must have taken the test not been automatically granted the license.

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlemissmoneypenny View Post
    After reading the very confusing dsa site im quite confused about what I can and can't do!

    I'm going to do my b+e test soon and have been practising reversing on private land. I want to try and do my test without getting a load of expensive lessons if it can be helped!

    Can I go out on the road with L plates in my pathfinder and 510 with my dad? I thought I couldn't but it's not very clear! This site says I can? http://www.towinghorsetrailers.co.uk...iving_test.htm

    Also any other helpful tips? thanks!
    SUPERVISING A B+E LEARNER
    In April 2010 new rules were introduced for those supervising certain learner drivers but they only affected those supervising VOCATIONAL categories such as C1 C1+E D1 & D1+E where the supervising driver had those categories given to them for free when they passed a pre 1997 car test.
    They do not affect those with a pre 1997 B+E licence who wish to supervise a B+E learner.
    The usual rules apply when a learner is driving -
    The supervising driver must be aged over 21
    The supervising driver must have held a B+E licence for at least 3 years
    L plates must be fitted to the front of the vehicle and the rear of the trailer
    Correct insurance for a B+E learner

    Many will find that passing the once in a lifetime B+E test is their best option so here is some info on that test:-

    The B+E test
    No medical or theory test required
    Read a number plate from a certain distance
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqw6U...eature=related - usually 5
    The next three can be in any order:-
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW7DH...eature=related - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao_5K...eature=related - done in test centre grounds if test conducted from practical test centre - some tests are now being done from training school grounds
    One hour road drive - includes the independant drive and is done virtually the same as the basic car test

    DISCLAIMER - I have no connection to any companies which may be featured in those videos

    PS - are you aware that you can tow on a B (no B+E) licence under certain rules?
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for above
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    I would definately have a couple of lessons before the test, most people tend to fail on the driving aspect.

    I had some lessons beforehand and managed to past 1st time a few weeks ago - so they paid off!

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    Thank you for your advice, really helpful

    I will have a look through those videos when on a computer.

    I am aware you can tow on a B licence just a bit confused with the weights etc so thought it was better to be safe than sorry. Plus our set up would be a nissan pathfinder (56 plate version) a HB510 and my mare who's a 17hh warmblood so I think we would be a lot over?

    My friends also done the test last year so knows the little bits they pick up on just not had his license long enough to supervise me. I think my closest test centre for the B+E test is in Taunton, the dsa website doesn't show the b+e cat on the different centres so not sure if there are any in bristol.

    When you say correct insurance for a b+e learner, I've just been insured on the pathfinder but do you have to state its for learning?

    Thanks again, very helpful!!

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    Quote Originally Posted by Littlemissmoneypenny View Post
    Thank you for your advice, really helpful

    I will have a look through those videos when on a computer.

    I am aware you can tow on a B licence just a bit confused with the weights etc so thought it was better to be safe than sorry. Plus our set up would be a nissan pathfinder (56 plate version) a HB510 and my mare who's a 17hh warmblood so I think we would be a lot over?

    My friends also done the test last year so knows the little bits they pick up on just not had his license long enough to supervise me. I think my closest test centre for the B+E test is in Taunton, the dsa website doesn't show the b+e cat on the different centres so not sure if there are any in bristol.

    When you say correct insurance for a b+e learner, I've just been insured on the pathfinder but do you have to state its for learning?

    Thanks again, very helpful!!
    Usually your insurer just needs informing to keep you covered

    Find your nearest DSA LGV test centre as those are the ones which also do PCV & B+E

    Pathfinder (GVW 2880) and a trailer over 750 kgs is deffo a B+E licence
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for above
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    Thanks for all the advice!

    Are you legally allowed to tow a horse whilst having the L plates present and being supervised by the right person? Not that I am going to just curious

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    Default Re: Sorry....another b+e question!

    I would also like to know can you legally tow with a horse in?

    Thanks
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