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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by harleyboy View Post
    B+E Licence
    Ifor HB506 unladen 920
    2horses & hay water 1160
    Total = 2080

    Would a vw Tiguan that can tow 2500 be ok for this?
    yes
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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Hi I need a simple answer to a towing question!
    I passed my test in 1997 so only have B licence
    I have 3 cars in the family so need to know if any would be legal without doing b+E test
    Can I tow a 510kg horse in an ifor 506 with a 2011 Kia shortage 3 1.7?
    Can I tow same horse/trailer combo with 2015 Range Rover sport
    Can I tow with 2015 Audi A4 estate 2.0
    Is only for short distance up to 20 miles 4/5 times a year

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkypug1 View Post
    Hi I need a simple answer to a towing question!
    I passed my test in 1997 so only have B licence
    I have 3 cars in the family so need to know if any would be legal without doing b+E test
    Can I tow a 510kg horse in an ifor 506 with a 2011 Kia shortage 3 1.7?
    Can I tow same horse/trailer combo with 2015 Range Rover sport
    Can I tow with 2015 Audi A4 estate 2.0
    Is only for short distance up to 20 miles 4/5 times a year
    Sorry I meant to write 1998

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkypug1 View Post
    Hi I need a simple answer to a towing question!
    I passed my test in 1997 so only have B licence
    I have 3 cars in the family so need to know if any would be legal without doing b+E test
    Can I tow a 510kg horse in an ifor 506 with a 2011 Kia shortage 3 1.7?
    Can I tow same horse/trailer combo with 2015 Range Rover sport
    Can I tow with 2015 Audi A4 estate 2.0
    Is only for short distance up to 20 miles 4/5 times a year
    I need the GVW for each of the vehicles

    GVW is the top of the four numbers on the weight plates usually hidden in a door frame or under the bonnet

    GVW or max permissible mass is listed on each of the V5 keeper docs
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    I need the GVW for each of the vehicles

    GVW is the top of the four numbers on the weight plates usually hidden in a door frame or under the bonnet

    GVW or max permissible mass is listed on each of the V5 keeper docs
    Kia GVW 1940kg
    RR 3000kg
    Audi 1890kg

    I hope they seem correct

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by pinkypug1 View Post
    Kia GVW 1940kg
    RR 3000kg
    Audi 1890kg

    I hope they seem correct
    Look to be ok

    HB510 is 2600kg MAM and 920kg empty

    Horse is 510kg

    Contact IW and down plate from 2600 to 1500 leaving 580 for the trailer load

    You can then tow that with the Kia or Audi on a B licence proving the max towing capacity of those is at least 1430kg
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    Look to be ok

    HB510 is 2600kg MAM and 920kg empty

    Horse is 510kg

    Contact IW and down plate from 2600 to 1500 leaving 580 for the trailer load

    You can then tow that with the Kia or Audi on a B licence proving the max towing capacity of those is at least 1430kg
    Many thanks for that. Its the 505 I have so maybe lighter again than the 510. Both the Kia and Audi can tow more than 1430 so looks like Ill be good to tow

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkypug1 View Post
    Many thanks for that. It’s the 505 I have so maybe lighter again than the 510. Both the Kia and Audi can tow more than 1430 so looks like I’ll be good to tow
    HB505 = 2340kg and 905 empty

    Down plating to 1500 goes like this ....

    You call IW
    You remove weight plate
    You send weight plate and about 50 to IW
    IW send you new weight plate
    You fit new weight plate

    Needs drill and pop rivet gun
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Hi, i Am hoping someone can help! my cars towing capacity is 1800kg, the trailer weighs 767kg unladen and max gross weight is 1600kg. As its under 3.5 can I tow it with out a trailer licence? Also if a trailer max gross is say 2300kg but the actual trailer with horse weighs less than my cars towing capacity of 1800kg is my car legal to tow once I have a license?thanks

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    Default Re: Welcome to HHO Towing Clinic

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicola89 View Post
    Hi, i Am hoping someone can help! my cars towing capacity is 1800kg, the trailer weighs 767kg unladen and max gross weight is 1600kg. As it’s under 3.5 can I tow it with out a trailer licence? Also if a trailer max gross is say 2300kg but the actual trailer with horse weighs less than my cars towing capacity of 1800kg is my car legal to tow once I have a license?thanks
    No law or rule which states that a trailer plated MAM cannot exceed a vehicles max towing capacity
    Example that is legal -
    Tow capacity 1500
    Trailer MAM 2000
    Trailer empty 800
    Max load for trailer 700

    What is the GVW of your car ? - need that to answer any Qs for B licence towing
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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