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    Excellent thread! I wondered if you can help me with my backing query please? When I back my trailer, I look round with my head out of the window, occasionally checking my left mirror. I cannot seem to back, purely sitting forward using both mirrors. In a test, are you able to back using the method I first mentioned, or only the latter?

    I'm in the process of booking lessons. Just thought I could get plenty of practice in beforehand if I knew! Thanks xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rudey View Post
    Excellent thread! I wondered if you can help me with my backing query please? When I back my trailer, I look round with my head out of the window, occasionally checking my left mirror. I cannot seem to back, purely sitting forward using both mirrors. In a test, are you able to back using the method I first mentioned, or only the latter?

    I'm in the process of booking lessons. Just thought I could get plenty of practice in beforehand if I knew! Thanks xx
    Reversing on a B+E test - you are allowed to do it as you want BUT the examiner wants to see good all round checks for the duration of the reverse

    You can 'palm the wheel' as long as you have full control

    You B+E instructor will explain and help you through everything including the reverse and the un/couple as well as what is expected on the road drive


    If you can get plenty of reversing practice with a box type trailer before training then well done - just remember to have insurance for a B+E learner, L plates and a supervising driver who has held a B+E licence for more than 3 years
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
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    Ah thank you very much ROG. I've been fortunate enough to have a fair amount of towing and reversing experience already, so the lessons will literally be to tidy me up and prepare me for test standard. I am absolutely bricking it to be blunt as ever! I am worried my nerves will get the better of me.... eeeeep! I could do with a good

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    There is a new girl at our yard who is adament that she can tow a large cob in a IW 510 with a freelander on a 'B' licence! She does, on occasion, take another horse too!
    I'm certain that her vechicle is unsuitable for towing that trailer/horse combination regardless of the fact that she only has a 'B' licence. Help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wigglypigs View Post
    There is a new girl at our yard who is adament that she can tow a large cob in a IW 510 with a freelander on a 'B' licence! She does, on occasion, take another horse too!
    I'm certain that her vechicle is unsuitable for towing that trailer/horse combination regardless of the fact that she only has a 'B' licence. Help!
    99.9% sure this is illegal , due to the b licence if she is stopped they could impound the vehicle/trailer !!!! and the other thing is her insurance will be invalid so same again plus woundent get payed out if she has an accident, so it is stupid thing to do and could end in loss of licence and a big fine...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wigglypigs View Post
    There is a new girl at our yard who is adament that she can tow a large cob in a IW 510 with a freelander on a 'B' licence! She does, on occasion, take another horse too!
    I'm certain that her vechicle is unsuitable for towing that trailer/horse combination regardless of the fact that she only has a 'B' licence. Help!
    There are many freelanders so I'll pick one at random

    1 - What licence they hold - B
    2 - Unladen/empty weight of the towing vehicle = 1457
    3 - GVW of the towing vehicle = 2040
    4 - towing capacity of the towing vehicle = 1800
    5 - Plated MAM of the trailer = 2700
    6 - Unladen/empty weight of the trailer = 1000

    ILLEGAL on a B licence

    Reasons -
    5 must not be more than 2
    3 plus 5 is more than 3500

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    Using a B+E licence only 800 can be loaded onto the trailer so that it is not more than the 1800 towing capacity so 2 horses would both have to be small ones

    CAVEAT - not certain I have the correct freelander weights as there are loads of models!
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
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    Rog would it legal on a b licsence to tow with a freelander 4 door descile and a single Ifor trailer

    Can't find the weights of the freelander sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mucky Shavings View Post
    Rog would it legal on a b licsence to tow with a freelander 4 door descile and a single Ifor trailer

    Can't find the weights of the freelander sorry

    Ta
    http://www.helpfindmea.co.uk/cars/sp...fications-259/
    which is it?

    What is the product code for the ifor trailer - ie HB505 etc ??
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
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    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
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    I have now spent over 2 hours trying to get my head round it all in order to be able to discuss the legalities. I'm also tempted to sit my B+E now so that I can tow myself rather than rely on my OH

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wigglypigs View Post
    I have now spent over 2 hours trying to get my head round it all in order to be able to discuss the legalities. I'm also tempted to sit my B+E now so that I can tow myself rather than rely on my OH
    I can help you

    I now know that you do not have B+E or C1 so that is the starting point.

    You do have B+E and C1 and/or C provisional

    Your OH, if they have full B+E for at least 3 years (pre 97 is ok) can sit next to you when towing with L plates on

    You MIGHT be able to tow with your current set up but I need some info
    What towing vehicle do you have? - year make & model please
    What trailer do you have? - the KG numbers on the plate will help but if not then the make and model of the trailer please
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
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