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    Quote Originally Posted by Maisy View Post
    My car is a '56' plate (does that mean the year is 2006!?), and is a TDV6....
    GOT IT ALL - ta http://www.getcarspecs.com/land-rove...-tdv6-se/print
    1 - B+E (pre 97 licence)
    2 - 2440 = unladen/empty weight
    3 - 2708 = fully loaded weight
    4 - 3493 = max towing weight
    5 - 2340 = max trailer weight when loaded
    6 - 905 = trailer weight when empty
    LEGAL on a B+E licence

    Your current trailer can carry a load of 1435 kgs

    You could get a bigger trailer up to 3500 if you wanted to and still be legal if you loaded it to capacity (well, except for 7kgs but no authority will bother with that)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    ILLEGAL on a B licence

    2720+1600=4320 which is more than the 3500 allowed for B when towing a trailer of more than 750 MAM

    With that towing vehicle you need to have a trailer plated at no more than 780 (2720+780=3500)
    Thought so, but hoped with a single trailer it would be legal.

    What I don't get though is the b or b+e license's? I thought that anyone who took the standard driving test after 1997 had a just a b license. But some say that they have b+e when passing the standard test after 1997

    I thought the b+e was the trailer license?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mucky Shavings View Post
    Thought so, but hoped with a single trailer it would be legal.

    What I don't get though is the b or b+e license's? I thought that anyone who took the standard driving test after 1997 had a just a b license. But some say that they have b+e when passing the standard test after 1997

    I thought the b+e was the trailer license?
    B+E is the full trailer towing licence but B licence holders can tow trailers but there area lot of rules regarding that
    Those that passed their B test after 97 do not have B+E entitlement but they do have B+E provisional
    B licence holders must pass the DSA B+E test to gain full B+E
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    B+E is the full trailer towing licence but B licence holders can tow trailers but there area lot of rules regarding that
    Those that passed their B test after 97 do not have B+E entitlement but they do have B+E provisional
    B licence holders must pass the DSA B+E test to gain full B+E
    Thought so. I that case I know of a few that are being very naughty. Ie driving a disco, double trailer and 2 big horses appox going out about twice a week, no l plates etc.

    Thought I was being fobbed off as it just didn't make sense.

    Going to have a quite word next time I see her

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    General note: -
    A couple of members have asked me questions and given their set-ups via the PM system and although I do not mind giving private responses I would prefer to do them publically for a couple of reasons -

    1 - I am not infallible so if I do make an error then it can be picked up by others

    2 - Other members can see the set-ups and the answers given which might be useful to them

    Thanks
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    1 - What licence they hold - B or BE - B
    2 - Unladen/empty weight of the towing vehicle - 1535kg
    3 - GVW of the towing vehicle - 2750kg
    4 - GTW and/or towing capacity of the towing vehicle - 2000kg
    5 - Plated MAM of the trailer or if no plate then the load rating on the tyres = 1750kg
    6 - Unladen/empty weight of the trailer - 550kg
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    Quote Originally Posted by broke_but_happy View Post
    1 - What licence they hold - B
    2 - Unladen/empty weight of the towing vehicle - 1535kg
    3 - GVW of the towing vehicle - 2750kg
    4 - GTW and/or towing capacity of the towing vehicle - 2000kg
    5 - Plated MAM of the trailer or if no plate then the load rating on the tyres = 1750kg
    6 - Unladen/empty weight of the trailer - 550kg
    ILLEGAL for a B licence

    Reasons are -

    The MAM of the trailer 1750 is more than the unladen/empty weight 1535 of the towing vehicle

    Also The GVW of the towing vehicle 2750 plus the trailer MAM 1750 adds up to 4500 which is more than the allowed 3500 maximum when towing a trailer over 750 MAM

    With the towing vehicle having a GVW of 2750 then the max trailer MAM cannot be more than 750 kgs (2750=750=3500)

    The set-up would be legal on a B+E licence
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    I've got an Ifor Williams 510 classic trailer and have been looking at a short wheel base Pajero- spec says it'll tow 2500kg but wanted to know if any of you fine people have experience/ advice re towing with short wheel base. My horse 16.1hh and weighs around 550kg. What do you think?? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by TallulahBright View Post
    I've got an Ifor Williams 510 classic trailer and have been looking at a short wheel base Pajero- spec says it'll tow 2500kg but wanted to know if any of you fine people have experience/ advice re towing with short wheel base. My horse 16.1hh and weighs around 550kg. What do you think?? Thanks
    Happy to help tallulahbright, could you tell us some more information:

    1 - What licence you hold - B or BE
    2 - Unladen/empty weight of the towing vehicle
    3 - Gross Vehicle Weight of the towing vehicle
    4 - Gross Towing Weight and/or towing capacity of the towing vehicle
    5 - Plated MAM of the trailer or if no plate then the load rating on the tyres
    6 - Unladen/empty weight of the trailer

    I'm sure it's not a problem towing with SWB but we should check according to the laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TallulahBright View Post
    I've got an Ifor Williams 510 classic trailer and have been looking at a short wheel base Pajero- spec says it'll tow 2500kg but wanted to know if any of you fine people have experience/ advice re towing with short wheel base. My horse 16.1hh and weighs around 550kg. What do you think?? Thanks
    1 - What licence you hold = B+E (I hope)
    2 - Unladen/empty weight of the towing vehicle = 1750 appx
    3 - Gross Vehicle Weight of the towing vehicle = 2400 appx
    4 - towing capacity of the towing vehicle = 2500
    5 - Plated MAM of the trailer = 2700
    6 - Unladen/empty weight of the trailer = 1000

    Using a B+E licence the above set-up is legal providing the trailer is never loaded with more than 1500 because the towing capacity is 2500 (1500+1000=2500) but I think the issue here is whether using a SWB will be 'balanced' enough for safe towing

    I would say yes because if it was not then a trailer size limit would have been mentioned by the manufacturer of the towing vehicle

    I often see towing vehicles that are far shorter than the trailer they are towing and have never seen them have any problems but science dictates that a larger wheel based towing vehicle is going to be more stable (pun!) than a smaller one
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