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    Itís 2200

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicola89 View Post
    Hi, i Am hoping someone can help! my cars towing capacity is 1800kg, the trailer weighs 767kg unladen and max gross weight is 1600kg. As itís under 3.5 can I tow it with out a trailer licence?
    GVW 2200 = thanks

    2200 + 1600 = 3800 so 300 over the 3500 B licence towing limit

    GOOD NEWS = you can contact IW and have the trailer down plated from 1600 to 1300 which mean the max load you can put in the trailer is 533kg so I hope you do not have a horse too heavy

    How down plating goes =
    You call IW with all the trailer info
    You remove weight plate and send it to IW with about £50
    IW send you new plate
    You fit new plate
    Needs drill and pop rivet gun - most mechanics have them if you need that option
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
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    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Looking to take my trailer test soon once new car arrives.
    Just wondering if anyone knows if I can use my reversing camera to hitch the trailer in the test?
    Assuming it will be a no as itís Ďcheatingí but worth a try, right?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gypley View Post
    Looking to take my trailer test soon once new car arrives.
    Just wondering if anyone knows if I can use my reversing camera to hitch the trailer in the test?
    Assuming it will be a no as itís Ďcheatingí but worth a try, right?!
    Yes you can use it for the test
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Hi Rog.
    Been looking to pull my partners horse, but Iíve searched all of yesterday, think Iím going cross eyed.
    Anyways, with a limited budge 4K on the vehicle, the trailer itís self we donít even know what to look for and may only have 2k ish(might save a bit more if needed).

    So I have a B lisence, I have picked a vehicle yet, as I thought I just needed a jeep that could tow a good weight, with research itís not so much just that! Iím totally confused with weights and what to be looking for!
    So is there any vehicle & horse box you could recommend? Our horse is about 600kg.

    I had looked at a Mitsubishi Outlander 2l 07 but prob to heavy and put me over my 3.5t.

    Any help or recommendations is valued as gold to me.

    Many Thanks

    Robert.(sorry if this doesnít make much sense or is limited on info)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsm100 View Post
    Hi Rog.
    Been looking to pull my partners horse, but I’ve searched all of yesterday, think I’m going cross eyed.
    Anyways, with a limited budge 4K on the vehicle, the trailer it’s self we don’t even know what to look for and may only have 2k ish(might save a bit more if needed).

    So I have a B lisence, I have picked a vehicle yet, as I thought I just needed a jeep that could tow a good weight, with research it’s not so much just that! I’m totally confused with weights and what to be looking for!
    So is there any vehicle & horse box you could recommend? Our horse is about 600kg.

    I had looked at a Mitsubishi Outlander 2l 07 but prob to heavy and put me over my 3.5t.

    Any help or recommendations is valued as gold to me.

    Many Thanks

    Robert.(sorry if this doesn’t make much sense or is limited on info)
    For B licence towing you need to keep within the 3500 limit which is made up of the vehicle GVW added to the trailer plated MAM

    Trailers can have their plated MAM reduced by contacting the manufacturer - cost is usually under £50


    A lot depends on what type of surface you need to tow on because if only hard solid ground then a normal car will suffice
    Example -
    Skoda Octavia (4x4 maybe) which has a GVW of say 2100 with a Bateson Derby trailer at 675 empty where the MAM has been down plated from 1700 to 1400 leaving a max trailer load of 725
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    For B licence towing you need to keep within the 3500 limit which is made up of the vehicle GVW added to the trailer plated MAM

    Trailers can have their plated MAM reduced by contacting the manufacturer - cost is usually under £50


    A lot depends on what type of surface you need to tow on because if only hard solid ground then a normal car will suffice
    Example -
    Skoda Octavia (4x4 maybe) which has a GVW of say 2100 with a Bateson Derby trailer at 675 empty where the MAM has been down plated from 1700 to 1400 leaving a max trailer load of 725
    Well I had looked at something like that but Iíd be a bit scared if we got stuck on grass ha ha. What happens if I find the perfect jeep + trainer... what about like tack and hay and humans? Does this effect the weights?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsm100 View Post
    Well I had looked at something like that but I’d be a bit scared if we got stuck on grass ha ha. What happens if I find the perfect jeep + trainer... what about like tack and hay and humans? Does this effect the weights?
    What goes in the vehicle comes under the vehicle GVW and what goes in the trailer comes under the trailer MAM

    What is the GVW and towing capacity of the jeep you are looking at ??

    What trailer are you considering ?
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROG View Post
    What goes in the vehicle comes under the vehicle GVW and what goes in the trailer comes under the trailer MAM

    What is the GVW and towing capacity of the jeep you are looking at ??

    What trailer are you considering ?

    Iím looking at

    Mitsubishi Outlander 2.0 Di-D 2007 kerb 1609 towing 2200

    Unsure of a trailer. Need something obviously light weight and can take a 16í2.
    Itís mostly for going to the odd riding lesson and horse show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsm100 View Post
    I’m looking at

    Mitsubishi Outlander 2.0 Di-D 2007 kerb 1609 towing 2200
    Need the GVW figure but I think it is likely to be about 2300 so too much
    HHO TOWING CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=490195
    HHO LGV (HGV) CLINIC = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...d.php?t=555565
    Email alerts for CLINICS
    Guide to Safe & Legal Towing = http://www.ntta.co.uk/law/
    VOSA guide for horsebox and horse trailer owners = http://www.vosa.gov.uk/guide-for-horsebox-owners
    Members vehicle & trailer combinations = http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forum...er-do-you-have

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