charliepup
enthusiast
Reged: 05/07/2005
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If you were buying a foal for say £6K and it had full pedigree on both sides but mare was not graded by BWB but full KWPN papers would it worry you if the foal only had white papers rather than pink? All breeding from both sides on passport.
Just wanted to get peoples thoughts.
Many thx
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forester
Reged: 29/04/2004
Posts: 4083
Loc: New Forest but would rather be...
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If the full breeding is registered on both sides with a recognised authority (KWPN certainly will be) then the foal should have been pink-papered anyway. My home bred yearling was registered with the AES last year (sire AES stallion) and is fully pink papered although the mare is half Arab/half TB and registered with the AHS not the AES. I just had to send copies of all the mare's registration details to the AES with the registration form and covering certificate.
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Ciss
Reged: 07/03/2005
Posts: 803
Loc: Buckinghamshire
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If the full breeding is registered on both sides with a recognised authority (KWPN certainly will be) then the foal should have been pink-papered anyway.
Not strictly correct. In order to have pink papers BOTH parents must be recorded as graded with BWBS (now WBB (UK)). If the sire is standing abroad and is fully graded with a WBFSH studbook I think they usually accept his grading status and if the mare is already graded elsewhere with a WBFSH stud book then when the owner registers her she is automatically entered into the Main Stud Book for mares. In this case the resultant foal would get pink papers even if neither parent had been to a WBBUK grading.
It is so easy to get an already graded mare overstamped and a foreign graded stallion available by AI approved for WBBUK breeding that the one question that springs to mind immediately is why didn't the owner bother to do this -- or is the mare actually not graded but just registered with another studbook which would explain the white papers.
In the case of a filly, if the pedigree is full for 3 generations then eligibility for grading is the same as for one with pink papers so it should not affect the price too much (although you would expect a slight reduction compared to one with pink papers) but with a colt it can make grading eligibility rather more problematical and therefore could mean the asking price could be at least £1000 lower even if the pedigree is complete.
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My home bred yearling was registered with the AES last year (sire AES stallion) and is fully pink papered although the mare is half Arab/half TB and registered with the AHS not the AES. I just had to send copies of all the mare's registration details to the AES with the registration form and covering certificate.
AES has different rules and seems to have stopped mare garding altogether so that is not really relevant in these circumstances.
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