MFH_09
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Thanks so much for that especially as I was the one to ask you to do it! 
Aren't we lucky to have such nice stallions to choose from?!
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Maggie2
Reged: 24/05/2003
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However, Set Adrift was also rather 'on his toes' shall we say, at Moulton earlier this year, someone said that his sire was sharp though?
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JH58
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Reged: 04/07/2005
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Loc: East Sussex
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Some lovely looking stallions, Wish Upon a Star oozes presence!
Although I have to say some of them look a bit ordinary looking, you could easily mistake a couple of them for being geldings...IMO! 
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TTC
stranger
Reged: 16/08/2008
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Ooh how remiss of me - didn't realise there was going to be a Parade!
Who organised it - to promote British breeding? Obv not just Event stallions as Woodcroft Garuda paraded. So why no showjumpers? You were involved Amelia, please fill me in!
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Ciss
Reged: 07/03/2005
Posts: 803
Loc: Buckinghamshire
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Ooh how remiss of me - didn't realise there was going to be a Parade!
Who organised it - to promote British breeding? Obv not just Event stallions as Woodcroft Garuda paraded. So why no showjumpers? You were involved Amelia, please fill me in!
The British Lead Body for Performance Sport Horses and Ponies (PSHP) organsied it at the request of Burghley. The PSHP was also the organisation that ran the Moulton stallion show in March and publishes The British Breeder magazine.
The parade was designe to showcase all the different kinds of stallion used to produce event horses (eg sporst ponies stallions for event ponies, Thoroughbreds to add speed, Irish bloodlines for those wishing to add them, dressage horses for mares that need better paces added, showjumpers to add more jump for the final phase, plus a group of Primitive Risings, some coloured horses which eventers often like and a group of rising stars.
The reason why there were no showjumpers is becuase although we expected three on the day (Arazmatazz, Renkum Valentino and Semoers Spirt), Aramataz's owner got stuck in Spain and couldn't back in time to ride him, Henk had to stay at home to organise the last minite details for his auction and Spirit's owner's fatehr in law was taken suddenly ill. All legitimate reasons for the non-appearances of the horses concerned so pleae don't assume -- as people seem to be increasingly doing on this list -- that it must be the organisers fault that not all was entirely perfect on the day. When you are dealing with horses and people the unpredicatable happens (one poor horse -- not a showjumper -- even got as far as the collecting ring and then went down with mild colic symptoms) and as long as all safety angles are covered there is nothing much else you can do to prevent mishaps/ last minute changes.
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ASizzlingMincepie2
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Reged: 28/04/2008
Posts: 284
Loc: Lincolnshire
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I'm probably going to get completely slated here judging on the enthusiastic comments above (and I know I'm used to seeing German stallion parades and probably spoilt because of it) but I thought it could have been done so much better. The two first stallions in consisted of a little pony who, whilst exceptionally sweet, looked identical in every way to my 4 year old son's little pony and a pretty ordinary looking tb ridden off the bit and who looked stiff behind. No wow entrances/music and a commentator that didn't speak clearly enough. Many stallions not ridden well at all which didn't help. I did like a couple of stallions (eg Wish upon a Star) but generally not impressed at all!!!!
I thought the Moulton parade had a lot more atmosphere and the individual shows there worked much better. 
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pinchaninch
stranger
Reged: 25/06/2008
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Yes but the Moulton parade was a dedicated event to promoting stallions, Burghley asked for the lunch break to be filled with a stallion based feature which is what was provided very well. Especially as having 20 stallions riding round together could potentially be difficult it all ran fairly smoothly in well organised groups with good commentary. Yes Friday is more of a breeding day (BYEH) but it was good how many people watched on thursday.
I've seen TB's very badly shown at Vechta so the Germans aren't perfect at it.
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Studmanager
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Reged: 06/09/2008
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Great pictures, shame the organises of the parade did not think to give out a list of the stallions present, or include something in the programme, I know some stallions owners were under the impression that they were paying to be one of 12 or 15 stallions filling the lunchtime slot, and were surprsed to find 20 plus, and there was no way of working out who was who, if you missed the commentary on a particular horse
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SillyMare
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Reged: 04/01/2006
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Loc: Northampton
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No list of stallions / studcards was a major oversight by the organisers!
Trying to remember who was who, the ones that stood out to me were Weston Justice (I'm biased - we have a yearling by him - but it was a relief that I still liked him on seeing him again if that makes sense), Revolution, DSCH and the chestnut at the end (Wish Upon a Star?).
I had my own mare in mind though and was mentally trying to find something that would complement her. She is a very petite little TB who lacks a bit of movement.
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UK_Warmbloods
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Reged: 27/08/2008
Posts: 58
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Wow, thanks for those 
It was my birthday so we couldn't go and I was gutted to be missing the parade. It's great to hear they were so well behaved, I think it's really important to consider temperament when choosing a stallion. We're hoping to use Diddicoy next year and have heard he's a calm chap, which would be perfect for one of our mares who can get herself in a bit of a tizz, as those at the Catherston Futurity will know
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madmare22
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Reged: 07/06/2008
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I beleive M J Fine Art was there, he crosses superbly with tbs, has good movement and a fantastic temperament.
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Equine_additions
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Reged: 31/07/2008
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shame the organises of the parade did not think to give out a list of the stallions present, or include something in the programme,
There was a lady handing out a sheet with infomation on the stallions taking part in the parade . She had loads of them and was quiet happy to hand one out
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I know some stallions owners were under the impression that they were paying to be one of 12 or 15 stallions filling the lunchtime slot, and were surprsed to find 20 plus,
Which stallion owners were they  everyone I saw and spoke to seemed very happy to be a part of the parade and was very up-beat about the whole thing including the numbers
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and there was no way of working out who was who, if you missed the commentary on a particular horse
Each rider was wearing a numbered bib - which was listed with the stallions details on the hand out sheet 
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MFH_09
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Reged: 20/06/2005
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I beleive M J Fine Art was there, he crosses superbly with tbs, has good movement and a fantastic temperament.
I'm bias for a variety of reasons, but yes, he's a total peach!
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Ciss
Reged: 07/03/2005
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Loc: Buckinghamshire
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shame the organises of the parade did not think to give out a list of the stallions present, or include something in the programme,
There was a lady handing out a sheet with infomation on the stallions taking part in the parade . She had loads of them and was quiet happy to hand one out
There certainly wasnlt any oversight as far as that was concerned, but with (as I said) at least 3 stallions withdrawing on the day and about 8 in total in the week beforehand any catalogue listing provided in the Burghley programme (which went to press at least 1 month before) would have been impossible and there was no emchanism to get a loose insert put in by the catalgue sellers -- as anyone who has experience of organising such a parade at public (as distinct from dedicated events) would tell you.
In fact the lady handing out the stallion list was wearing a bright yellow floursecent gillet so that everyone could see her. However, if anyone would like a list of the stallions and their numbers/contact details and didn'tget one from her on the day then PM me with your e-mail address and I will send you one as a Word file.
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madmare22
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Reged: 07/06/2008
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Forgive me for being nosy but why are you baised, is he yours ?
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Studmanager
stranger
Reged: 06/09/2008
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We asked several people about stud cards and lists and no one knew where they were or if there were any, also it was very difficult to get a good view of the stallions if you were on the side of the arena nearest the collecting ring, as they all went to the far side. Shame such a good opportunity to show off some good stallions was wasted for te sake of moving a few barriers!
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Ciss
Reged: 07/03/2005
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Loc: Buckinghamshire
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We asked several people about stud cards and lists and no one knew where they were or if there were any, also it was very difficult to get a good view of the stallions if you were on the side of the arena nearest the collecting ring, as they all went to the far side. Shame such a good opportunity to show off some good stallions was wasted for te sake of moving a few barriers!
See my previous post about the stallion list and PM me with your e-mail address if you want further details.
The rails could not be moved as to do so would have completely disrupted the wiring of the scoring mechanism, loudspeakers etc. As I have said earlier the PSHP was invited to put on the parade and it is not good manners to demand such changes when you are a guest and requiring such a re-arrangement of the arena (especially as the stallions were not allowed to use the dressage arena anyway under FEI rules) would have meant that the stallion parade could not have happened. But then increasingly some people on this list make a habit of making short-sighted *demands* without even thinking that the reason why what they demanded was not in place was becuase it was impossible for even the people with many years experience of putting on stallion parades (and who are perfectly well aware of what the ideal situation should be)to negotiate as a requirement of holding the parade.
As I asked before would you rather there had been no parade becuase the conditions you thought essential/demand cannot be met or are you willing to take a broader view that the fact that the organisers at Burghley actually approached the PSHP to put one on was a significant step forward for British breeding in view of the general ignorance / indifference the competition world takes as to the animals they ride?
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MFH_09
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Reged: 20/06/2005
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Loc: Wynnstay country - the Best!
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Forgive me for being nosy but why are you baised, is he yours ?
I think that was meant to me about MJ Fine Art?
No, not mine, but he's very local to me, as in 4 miles away, happens to be 'my type' of horse and I have been acquainted with the owners for many years.
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volatis
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Reged: 22/05/2007
Posts: 2424
Loc: S Lincs
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wish I could have made it. Interesting to hear some feedback. I know Garuda K impressed a few people I had spoken to, and nice to hear some other impressions, and hopefully this can become a regular feature at Burghely.
British breeders need all the bloody help they can get in this economic climate
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