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AprilBlue
13-10-13, 02:00 PM
i think that we all have come across horses with really unique colouring but I really don't know the names of these few, does anyone know? btw none of these horses are mine, just interested :)
1)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/Czerewko_bashkir1_zps13056501.jpg
2)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/tumblr_mb81q6yzJU1rzjxmao1_12801_zpsf231381a.jpg
3)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/neth1_zpsd45820dd.jpg
4)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/carin2b1_zpse9718b8a.jpg
5)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/4123088809_1e2dfd15b81_zps93c0a8c0.jpg
6)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/JUNIOR20HL20520061_zps977e3189.jpg
7)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/foal-Pinto-Hot-4-02-2001_zpse47ca475.jpg
8)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/tumblr_m3fc8r0QYJ1qj39jto1_12801_zps9e5bea2e.jpg
9)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/JazzCanterBlurrySHRUNK1_zpsd86acc09.jpg
10)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/Rocky20site2011_zpsb7bebc13.jpg

amandap
13-10-13, 02:09 PM
Don't know the colour description but the first is a Zebroid by the look of it.

Paint Me Proud
13-10-13, 02:34 PM
My best guesses

1- grullo
2- sabino with badger face
3 - Silver dapple
4 - Champagne
5 - Silver dapple
6 - Chocolate buckskin
7- ?
8 - Blood shoulder mark?
9 - Buckskin
10 - Silver dapple

cinnamontoast
13-10-13, 02:34 PM
Calling Faracat or PMP!

Edit: I see PMP has been!

Pinky94
13-10-13, 02:36 PM
The second is a chestnut sabino with the badger face marking?

Faracat
13-10-13, 04:18 PM
1 - Black Dun (AKA Grulla) with very interesting shoulder markings (somatic mutation?). Not a Zebra cross - just an extremely marked genuine Dun with dun markings eg leg bars and the dark marks on his ears.

2 - Chestnut with sabino, splashed white and a badger face.

3 - Black silver dapple.

4 - I thought Champagne, but he is apparently a Pearl, which causes very similar colours but is a different gene.

5 - Silver dapple, with extreme dapples (maybe due to sooty?), looks to have some form of agouti (bay/seal brown/wild bay) as he's not as dark as a black based SD.

6 - Silver Dapple sooty buckskin - he's on white horse productions and listed as that colour. ;)

7 - Looking at photos of him when he was younger, he is definitely black based, with agouti and tobiano - read here for more as it's a bit of a mysteryhttp://www.shoc.org/ArticFoxx.html

8 - looks like only the leg greyed out (when a patch fails to grey out on a grey horse, it's called a bloody shoulder marking regardless of whether it's actually on the shoulder), but could be a somatic mutation or a chimera. On searching for the image, most people have labelled this as a somatic mutation.

9 - Sooty Buckskin, but possibly has something causing roaning/white flecks too, so rabicano/sabino/or the true Roan gene?

10 - Black silver dapple.

hobo
13-10-13, 04:23 PM
Don't know but love number 5.

s4sugar
13-10-13, 04:33 PM
Agree with Faracat except 1, as I would say bay dun with bloody shoulder and 9, as I've seen this colour and it is buckskin roan - just as some roans can be grey bodied with bay edges.

Love
13-10-13, 04:33 PM
Is the first one a 'bloody shoulder' marking maybe?

amandap
13-10-13, 04:37 PM
1 - Black Dun (AKA Grulla) with very interesting shoulder markings (somatic mutation?). Not a Zebra cross - just an extremely marked genuine Dun with dun markings eg leg bars and the dark marks on his ears.


Yes, thanks. I looked up Grulla after Paint Me Proud posted.

ps. Isn't the pearl (4) common in Akhal-Teke's?

Faracat
13-10-13, 04:44 PM
Agree with Faracat except 1, as I would say bay dun with bloody shoulder and 9, as I've seen this colour and it is buckskin roan - just as some roans can be grey bodied with bay edges.

I stand by black dun (as I see no evidence of agouti) for 1 and it can't be bloody shoulder without the grey gene (which this pony doesn't appear to have).

For 9, I did wonder about him having the cream gene and the roan gene (black + agouti + sooty + cream + roan) so sooty buckskin roan is a possibility. :)

Spring Feather
13-10-13, 04:49 PM
I stand by black dun (as I see no evidence of agouti) for 1 and it can't be bloody shoulder without the grey gene (which this pony doesn't appear to have).


I agree with you on Grullo. I have a grullo gelding and he has strong shoulder and neck barring, but he also has a lot leopard spotting on his legs so perhaps this horse above has the leopard spotting on his shoulder?

Faracat
13-10-13, 04:52 PM
That's interesting SF - do you have a photo of your horse?

Spring Feather
13-10-13, 04:58 PM
That's interesting SF - do you have a photo of your horse?

I have loads of photos of him riding out, so too far to be able to see the markings close up, but I'm sure I took some photos of his barring and spotting a few years ago. I'll search around for them (thousands of photos on this computer I'm afraid). They are basically a golden sort of colour surrounded by black circles. He only has them on the upper part of his legs though, nowhere else on his body. The shoulder and neck barring he has is solid black.

Pigeon
13-10-13, 04:59 PM
These are best guesses, don't take my word for it!

1) Grulla with brindle
2) Chestnut splash sabino
3) Silver Dapple
4) Perlino
5) Chocolate Dapple or could just be a rose grey.
6) Buckskin
7) Dapple Grey paint.
8) Chimerism
9) Dun roan (clipped out I think)
10) Silver Dapple

Honey08
13-10-13, 04:59 PM
They're interesting aren't they.

Regarding 5 and 10, we had a pony aged 4 whose passport said "bay turning grey" that was a slightly lighter version of no 10. Within a year she was a beautiful dark dapple, within three years she was a very light dapple, and when we went to see her a year later she was nearly white.

AprilBlue
13-10-13, 05:12 PM
how about a few more:
11)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/5861018603_750ba4b0fc_z1_zps661fb3e5.jpg
12)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/b4de0bba3f51c4ba682b5a4c933589e21_zps47fd4b3f.jpg
13)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/77a59c4e6a66020668439bc523cb0ec01_zps96124d46.jpg
14)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/9a56ed662646b55c3db73611c93b3ef31_zps1400e6f6.jpg
15)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/chocolate-palomino-stallion-uk1_zps9ab9dc01.jpg
16)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/doublecreamchampagne1_zps5e3d9ac2.jpg
17)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/champ_creme_amber1_zps3764718c.jpg
18)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/ConnorSept24081_zps918c17dd.jpg
19)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/needymare11_zps43f20628.jpg I must say that this horse is in a terrible state though. I was thinking fungal infection scars maybe?
20)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/markfs0011_zpsc43d2118.jpg
21)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/TeTe20VA1_zps2d97be1f.jpg
22)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/tumblr_m9hf9oseFP1refhj4o1_12801_zpsa977aa5c.jpg
23)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/smokey-cream1_zpsa0f6b4e6.jpg

AprilBlue
13-10-13, 05:37 PM
24)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/f6e5f10ac8297df8e93281d40edc77991_zps384809ce.jpg
25)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/ee36b5191cff87c9a9d1d7de210a1c061_zpsb1ae83e0.jpg
26)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/d4158def5e4dca6efea96157261081f52_zpsc6d1fafd.jpg
27)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/70463906dcdb2f1da1ad28e81bf0e2cd1_zps46badedf.jpg
28)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/b1bfb95bc1b1a4e8893d8c72b048c2251_zpsaeab5b4b.jpg
29)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/d67387aabcc9c6c4c5482ebc7ce166791_zps51c6f4f1.jpg
30)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/720723e4e1c8ff654768b46b605aaf5f1_zps92a3831c.jpg
31)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/8d6aa47980aa00f439401a5ddc0e0b431_zpsc001ab3c.jpg vitiligo?
32)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/85a465d82ba2d08f132e6fdc3900008b1_zps3e2a2914.jpg
33)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/38b182372936b830580f021d84bb1d121_zpsbed6da77.jpg
34)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/43f19cec5b5257a62b780384610558f21_zps0b1986a7.jpg
35)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/6f2cfc7e1e84c1381f0f3a84e89b2a862_zpsa28900ef.jpg
36)
http://i1172.photobucket.com/albums/r569/AprilBlue1/1d8c739bd0a77fa8b4a2e7c8eb5ffdc81_zps2f397ef7.jpg

Pigeon
13-10-13, 05:55 PM
11) Chestnut blanket appaloosa
12) Rose grey (I think, I know one that looks like this and he's grey)
13) Perlino
14) Rabicano?
15) Silver dapple sabino
16) Cremello
17) Buttermilk buckskin
18) Wild bay or liver chestnut
19) I agree, some kind of discolouration or scarring
20) Blue and white (I think I see some blue skin on shoulder) or cremello if that's just dirt.
21) Cremello
22) Pinto with blanket spotting
23) Cremello
24) Black frame overo
25) Buckskin minimal tobiano
26) Bay minimal tobiano
27) Silver Dapple
28) Few Spot Appaloosa
29) Weird one, the photo is edited so don't know if they've changed the colours. Could be chocolate.
30) Silver dapple
31) Vitiligo discolouration
32) Buckskin or buckskin roan (clipped out again, they always look a bit grey when clipped)
33) Chestnut with ben d'or spots.
34) Iron Grey (or possibly blue roan)
35) Bloody shoulder mark
36) Liver chestnut

Faracat
13-10-13, 06:03 PM
11 - chestnut sabino manchado.

12 - bay, greying out seems likely.

13 - Peal again, or possibly champagne.

14 - is on a dominant white page as an example of the colour, so she must be dominant white.

15 - another Black silver dapple (with sabino markings)

16 - creamello champagne (double cream + champagne)

17 - this is apparently another cream + champagne, it doesn't say how many copies of each gene are present.

18 - bay silver dapple

19 - same horse before the fungal infection - she's chestnut. :p

http://www.reiserstables.com/files/40503280.JPG

20 - an extreme sabino/blagdon

21 - Smoky cream

22 - pintaloosa

23 - Smoky cream

Pretty much all of these images have been discussed on colour sites/forums/threads.

Faracat
13-10-13, 06:31 PM
24 - another dominant white, I think, certainly looks like a TB anyway.

25 - sooty buckskin tobiano

26 - bay tobiano (minimal) with sabino

27 - another silver dapple

28 - few spot

29 - Totilas photoshopped - so black is the real answer.

30 - Silver dapple .... again

31 - could be vitiligo

32 - sooty buckskin

33 - sooty palomino

34 - probably a grey

35 - bloody shouldered grey

36 - he's a black forest horse, so probably a 'black' chestnut with flaxen mane and tail, ie the chestnut is so dark that it looks black.

AdorableAlice
13-10-13, 07:11 PM
I am a boring old fart and there would only be 2 or 3 of those that I could bear to see in my boxes !

AprilBlue
13-10-13, 08:12 PM
30 - Silver dapple .... again



wouldn't number 30 be like a rusty rose grey? :)
i'm not an expert on colours but its quite similar to the other one that I posted that was a rose grey

Faracat
13-10-13, 08:18 PM
Rose grey just means that the horse was born chestnut or bright bay and is going through a 'pink' stage as it greys out. Number 12 is possibly a bay that is greying out, I'm not certain, however 30 really does look like a silver dapple. Note the way the silver dapple has a pale mane and tail (nothing to do with flaxen).

Goldenstar
13-10-13, 08:50 PM
Don't know but love number 5.

Me too stunning but obese.

Spring Feather
13-10-13, 09:07 PM
I looked for the photos Faracat of the leopard spotting on my grullo's legs that I took a few years ago but I cannot find them. I have bungs of him ridden where the neck barring is easily seen but the spotting only shows in the summer and he's now growing his winter coat so I can't even get another photo of him for you.

The dominant white (DW) on the previous page is a Puchilingui line youngster I strongly suspect. I have a Puchinlingui DW youngster :smile3: they are quite odd creatures.

freckles22uk
13-10-13, 09:18 PM
no idea on 99% of them.... but 99% of them are lovely

Faracat
13-10-13, 09:37 PM
SF - Thanks for looking for the photos, there's always next summer to photograph him! :p

I looked up Puchinlingui and he's stunning.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PUCHILINGUI-THOROUGHBRED-HORSE-POSTCARD-SABINO-PINTO-STALLION-/00/s/MTA4M1gxNjAw/$T2eC16VHJHwE9n8iiIQhBQrm-nd-jw~~60_35.JPG

Spring Feather
13-10-13, 10:16 PM
SF - Thanks for looking for the photos, there's always next summer to photograph him! :p

I looked up Puchinlingui and he's stunning.

http://i.ebayimg.com/t/PUCHILINGUI-THOROUGHBRED-HORSE-POSTCARD-SABINO-PINTO-STALLION-/00/s/MTA4M1gxNjAw/$T2eC16VHJHwE9n8iiIQhBQrm-nd-jw~~60_35.JPG
Yes he was a lovely stallion, and doted upon by his owner Jerry.

So I've looked it up and found a website dedicated to grullos and it seems my AQHA has mottling. There's a picture of it if you scroll down. My boy's mottling is far more pronounced that you see in the piccy here and is a bit bigger and more defined, but you get the idea. http://grullablue.com/colors/dun_factor_markings.htm

Faracat
13-10-13, 10:22 PM
That's a good site. Thank you.

Dogrose
13-10-13, 10:40 PM
I'll have a go!
1. A grulla/black based dun with something called Bider markings which only occur on duns and then very rarely.
2. Probably spalsh and sabino with a badger face on flaxen chestnut.
3. Silver black.
4. Black based champagne.
5. Silver black possibly with cream too.
6. Silver brown, possibly with cream.
7. 'Pintaloosa', black tobiano with appaloosa.
8. Somatic mark that is losing colour like grey.
9. Smoky brown classic roan.
10. Silver black.
11. Possibly Manchado.
12. Chestnut greying unusually.
13. Bay based champagne but also looks a bit like black double pearl.
14. Dominant white.
15. Silver black with sabino.
16. Cremello with champagne.
17. Buckskin.
18. Silver bay.
19. Fungal scars.
20. Maximum sabino.
21. Pearl and cream? (guess).
22. Pintaloosa.
23. Smoky cream.
24. Dominant white.
25. Smoky brown and tobiano.
26. Brown tobiano.
27. Silver possibly with cream.
28. Few spot.
29. Photoshop!
30. Sooty flaxen chestnut.
31. Vitiligo.
32. Smoky brown.
33. Sooty palomino with Bend'Or spots.
34. Another photoshop, colour has been removed.
35. Bloody mark on grey.
36. Liver chestnut flaxen.