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girla
11-06-08, 01:17 PM
Zara is out of the Bejing Olympics because Toy Town has hurt himself in training.

Bloody shame was looking forward to hwer doing well http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

EventingEditor
11-06-08, 01:23 PM
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/news/397/258336.html

hotellie
11-06-08, 01:23 PM
Its so awful...poor poor Zara.
Which reserve will be called up?

Eventerlad15
11-06-08, 01:28 PM
OMFG. Poor Zara, to miss two olympics through injury must be so sad.
So who do we think will be called up. I'm quessing not Flint Curtis or Miners Frolic.

carthorse
11-06-08, 01:31 PM
Just saw it on BE website. She is our section at Purston Manor. I think it is a great shame.

H-J
11-06-08, 01:32 PM
I just saw this and rushed to post but you beat me!! http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

So so sad http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

H-J
11-06-08, 01:32 PM
Even though she made a small c**k up at Badders I think Daisy deserves the space

Madam_max
11-06-08, 01:35 PM
Well I am hoping Ruth Edge will go.

tendon_boot
11-06-08, 01:35 PM
just heard it on the radio what a pity http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif who's next in line for the place?

ilvpippa
11-06-08, 01:37 PM
Echo Madam_Max - Ruth Egde, deserves it i think!

C.x

Eventerlad15
11-06-08, 01:39 PM
I don't think Hope Street is good enough, Spring Along's dressage is too inconsistant IMO. I went to a lecture demo of Ruth's and thought she was very nice, she was still hopeful for a place and i hope she gets it.

KatB
11-06-08, 01:39 PM
http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif ******. Really feel for her. Hope it is Ruth aswell, her dr. is awesome and would help us against the Germans!!!

CastleMouse
11-06-08, 01:40 PM
Oh ***** http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Daffodil
11-06-08, 01:41 PM
Does anyone know what he's done to himself?

BBs
11-06-08, 01:47 PM
I just got the email.
How sad http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
I hope Kristina gets the call up, her dressage is very good.

Santa_Claus
11-06-08, 01:49 PM
just seen it on BBC news front page!! it is a shame, will be interesting to see who they call up from the 1st reserves!

edit to say like the comment on BBC website that says riders only qualify one horse for the olympics so she cannot find a replacement. Err no you can qualify more than one (infact arn't both Glenbuck and other one technically qualified??) but they are not good enough to go against other hopefuls and they weren't nominated on the short list....

Merri123
11-06-08, 02:02 PM
Oh ******, thats awful news. Very sorry for Zara and her connections.

Lobelia_Overhill
11-06-08, 02:06 PM
what a shame http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Diane_Pepper
11-06-08, 02:16 PM
Oh no http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif Poor Zara!

kibob
11-06-08, 02:19 PM
Poor girl, what a disappointment for all involved http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

MillbrookSong
11-06-08, 02:21 PM
just saw it on the news-what a shame

Twinkletoes
11-06-08, 02:24 PM
Poor Zara. Especially after she missed the Athens Olympics when Toytown was injured then.

moon_drop
11-06-08, 02:41 PM
That's a real shame http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
When Will they tell as who has been called up to replace her?

LEC
11-06-08, 02:42 PM
I would hate to see Ruth Edge go on Two Thyme as he can be inconsistent at top level. I do not believe he is an olympic horse. His Sjing is also in my mind not good enough as rarely goes clear.

I would rather see Tina Cook or Daisy go.

H-J
11-06-08, 02:44 PM
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I would hate to see Ruth Edge go on Two Thyme as he can be inconsistent at top level. I do not believe he is an olympic horse. His Sjing is also in my mind not good enough as rarely goes clear.

I would rather see Tina Cook or Daisy go.

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I agree I really dont think Two Thyme should be chosen

LEC
11-06-08, 02:49 PM
We will find out after Barbury so lets hope Daisy and Tina get a great run or that Two Thyme proves me wrong!

amabelscott
11-06-08, 02:54 PM
poor her, she must be so dissapointed...

Eventerlad15
11-06-08, 02:55 PM
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I would hate to see Ruth Edge go on Two Thyme as he can be inconsistent at top level. I do not believe he is an olympic horse. His Sjing is also in my mind not good enough as rarely goes clear.

I would rather see Tina Cook or Daisy go.

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I agree I really dont think Two Thyme should be chosen

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His showjumping is much more consistant now and I think that Spring Along's SJ is worse.

matthew
11-06-08, 03:00 PM
Spring along's x/c is very accurate usually though- especially at pratoni! I think Daisy should get the place- Zara wasnt renowned for her showjumping either!

henryhorn
11-06-08, 03:11 PM
What a shame, that's horses isn't it, on top of the world one minute, down the mine the next..
I'd actually like to see Sharon Hunt and Tankerstown go, but they aren't in the reserves are they.
I reckon he is the most fantastic XC horse and would be a real asset.
The Team were training straight after Bramham, I wonder if he did it then?

Eventerlad15
11-06-08, 03:14 PM
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What a shame, that's horses isn't it, on top of the world one minute, down the mine the next..
I'd actually like to see Sharon Hunt and Tankerstown go, but they aren't in the reserves are they.
I reckon he is the most fantastic XC horse and would be a real asset.
The Team were training straight after Bramham, I wonder if he did it then?

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Tankers Town is already on the first team.

madgirl
11-06-08, 03:20 PM
HH sharon is already on the team. would like to see TT on the team I think they deserve it after missing out last year and his Sjing is better now he hasn't had more than one down since 2206. Spring along IMO isn't good enough in the dressage.

lifeslemons
11-06-08, 03:27 PM
gutting. really gutting. imagine the media interest evetning would have had over the summer

LEC
11-06-08, 03:48 PM
WFP said the media interest at team training recently was huge because of Zara. Tis on his website.

henryhorn
11-06-08, 04:25 PM
Shows how much notice I take!!!!
Well then if she's already in, then my vote goes to Ruth Edge, who until that mistake at the water appeared to be going brilliantly.

Thistle
11-06-08, 04:36 PM
What a shame for the equestrian sports as a whole, Zara keeps the press interested and is a great ambassador for the sport.

pocket
11-06-08, 05:01 PM
How sad, I hope Toy Town is ok.

kerilli
11-06-08, 05:23 PM
what a nightmare, we had a great chance of an individual gold with her. damn damn damn. i wonder if it's the old ligament injury rearing its ugly head again? obviously something fairly major or they'd have tried to get him right, i guess.
right, Ruth Edge next then, i think... she could easily be top 5 after the dressage at that level, not sure any of the other first reserves could.

teapot
11-06-08, 05:29 PM
Such a shame http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Hope Tina or Daisy get the call up

missshell
11-06-08, 07:14 PM
What a shame. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

welshchick
11-06-08, 07:26 PM
Yeah, what a shame http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Totally agree with Lec regarding Two Thyme - I'd rather see Kristina go.

wizoz
11-06-08, 10:01 PM
Poor poor Zara, such a shame for her. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

I would like to see Pippa Funnell and my reason is, she needs a bloody good kick up the arse to stop fannying around, she needs to get her grit and determination back, because I think she has lost it, so by putting her in the team, it's not just her she has to think about. http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
(she isn't shortlisted though is she?)

I know what I mean http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif

ilvpippa
11-06-08, 10:19 PM
Wizoz - i agree with you!! i think she has lost it and needs something like this to gain what she once had back!

C.x

harleyandcopper
11-06-08, 10:29 PM
To be fair, Pippa hasn't had a top-class horse recently.
She's been bringing on her ex-racehorse, Ensign .

wizoz
11-06-08, 10:31 PM
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To be fair, Pippa hasn't had a top-class horse recently.
She's been bringing on her ex-racehorse, Ensign .

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Ensign has been to Badminton twice and not completed either time, he has completed at Blenheim 3* so he could easily do the Olympics.

ETS, she has done quite a few 3*'s on Ensign this year and also Blue Horizon has competed at that level this year.

elliebean
11-06-08, 10:34 PM
True, it may be the kick she needs, but Im not sure that using the Olympics as an opportunity for an individual to regain their nerve and drive is fair on those who have worked for the results that they have achieved.

I'm personally really keen to see Miners Frolic go, although he is still young and if he doesn't go this time, he will surely get his opportunity in the future!

seabiscuit
11-06-08, 10:53 PM
Mentally, I dont think that either Ruth Edge or Tina Cook are suitable, both have a long term history of messing up the cross country phases when being in a leading position. Seriously doubt where Pippa's mentality is at the moment, it is at rock bottom when doing the big competitions and I agree, she does need a kick up the backside!

I'm all for Daisy and Hope street, she is about the only one on the reserves that has the right mental strength to do a competition like the Olympics. Spring along is past it but hope street is just improving all the time, I am sure that they will get the extra training needed to polish their performance up even more.

annie083
12-06-08, 05:17 AM
I totally agree with Pippa Funnell, think she needs a big competition to get back what she had. Apart from badminton her and ensign have done well this season -chatsworth and tattersall and the olympics won't be as difficult. Her dressage is definately the best out the brits and we need that to get us in the lead.

Just can't believe she was put on the 2nd reserve list in the first place as in my opinion her form is better than those on it?!?
I would much rather she went then the others on that list, could be wrong but guess we'll have to see how they perform in next few wks.

Eventerlad15
12-06-08, 07:43 AM
Agreed that Pippa needs a boot up the backside but I dont think the olympics are the best place tbh. She said she rode like a t**t at Badminton, which was probably beacause she was under pressure to be selected.

karenpi
12-06-08, 08:26 AM
Send Daisy....

keekee
12-06-08, 10:12 AM
poor zara toy tonw will probably be to old to go round in 2012 so iv heard bless him i bet she is gutted........

kick_On
12-06-08, 10:44 AM
such a shame...................... does anyone know what's Toy Town done??????

difficult for selector BUT hey that's their job

And my boss asked me, am i waiting for 'THE CALL'.................. my answer was 'You wouldn't let me have time off in august!!!!!!!!!!!!!!' - D'OH

kerilli
12-06-08, 11:17 AM
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Mentally, I dont think that either Ruth Edge or Tina Cook are suitable, both have a long term history of messing up the cross country phases when being in a leading position.

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Crikey, that's a very sweeping statement! I would seriously disagree with that!
i view them both as out-and-out xc riders who have worked very very hard to get the dressage up to scratch. Ruth more so possibly, she's now an absolutely beautiful rider on the flat, could easily do a low-40s or better test at that level, which is what we need. I just can't see Hope Street doing that.
just checked Two Thyme's results, he's had scores in 30s and very low 40s at every 3* and 4* he's done (CIC and CCI) since '04...
if he's sound enough, and stays sound, he'd be top of my list.

LEC
12-06-08, 11:37 AM
I know that Two Thyme has serious doubts in the selectors minds due to his ability to go lame and his inconsistency Sjing. Ruth is a beautiful rider but she is not a very good sjer and that will count if the scores are close. Nobody knows how easy the xc will be so a good sjer is vital.

I have heard that Pippa is most likely off to Aachen for the team competition along with some of the other 2nd reserves. If you notice at Barbury Opp Buzz is not on the list nor is Facoudette so expect them to be going and doing that instead as invitation only.

kerilli
12-06-08, 11:44 AM
Ah, interesting.

PeanutButterDragon
12-06-08, 12:41 PM
I just really feel for Zara as this is the second time she a and ToyTown have so narrowly missed out on going to the Olympics! She must be gutted!

sarahgill
12-06-08, 01:20 PM
I think that all the reserve horse and riders have worked really hard to get to where they are now and who ever gets chosen from the reserve list has already been deeemed good enough to ride for GB by the selectors - if they weren't good enough as many of you are saying they wouldn't be on the reserve list! Credit where credit is due and good luck to whoever steps in they've got some pretty big boots to fill following Zara!

KatB
12-06-08, 02:31 PM
Would like to see Tina, but Miners Frolic is a very young horse so has got alot of time to get to championship level. Still stick by Ruth, although certainly would be nice to see Daisy there aswell http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Funny how no one has picked OT http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

madgirl
12-06-08, 02:50 PM
lol KatB I noticed that....I would have really like to have seen the secret weapon on the 2nd reserves list I think he is super.
Interesting about the aachen team event? what is it?

teapot
12-06-08, 05:09 PM
According to today's Daily Telegraph, they've quoted YB as saying that the new member of the GB squad will be announced after Barbury

mrdarcy
12-06-08, 05:11 PM
Well okay then http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Personally I'd love Ollie to get the place. He works bloomin hard and like him or loathe him he's a talented rider who's used to riding under pressure. IMO RE looked very sticky xc at Badders right up until she tipped over. Miners Frolic is a bit young to cope with the possible extreme climate and would be better saved for future comps. So OT for me - up the Northern accents!

gloster_image
12-06-08, 05:19 PM
Lol I think i'd kill myself if OT got the place - that would be kissing away any chance of a medal IMO!
I'd love to see Ruth Edge - her blip at badminton was just pure bad luck and something that several people have suffered at badders!

doodles
12-06-08, 07:13 PM
Hi.

Can I just say to all those people saying Two Thyme is not a good enough show jumper or inconsistent at top level... have you looked at his record recently?!? Yes he had a few blips when younger - many top horses do.

But over the last 3 years, to my knowledge, he's not had more than 2 SJ down in major competitions, and XC has 2 clears at 4* - including a win. Been Gatcombe open winner and third. And placed or won at numerous CIC***........ sorry, I'm not getting at anyone, and everyone is entitled to an opinion, it just annoys me a little when people make sweeping statements. Ruth is a very talented rider, works incredibly hard, and deserves the place. But that's just my opinion too http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

madgirl
12-06-08, 07:44 PM
Just to add the horse RE was riding at badders was NOT two thyme!

honour123
13-06-08, 11:34 PM
Why are we not allowed to know what Toytown's done?? Our local rag reported that FEI guidelines do not permit the publication of the exact nature of the injury

christian
16-06-08, 09:21 AM
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i'd kill myself if OT got the place - that would be kissing away any chance of a medal IMO!

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what makes you think that?? Flint Curtis is a good horse... very. He shown good form this year at Chatsworth... i saw it, and when it all comes together Oli and FC can really pull it out of the bag... i hope its him!

vivhewe
16-06-08, 09:40 AM
I feel for Zara, it must be gutting, and being Cumbrian obviously I'd love for Ruth Edge to be chosen for the Olympics, BUT...

we are all missing the bloody point. Surely if they are good enough to be olympic shortlisted then everyone should get some credit for their riding and their horses ability? http://www.horseandhound.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

*viv runs and hides*

Tanta
16-06-08, 10:14 AM
Flint Curtis was held on the first trotup at Bramham, which is not promising for an olympic potential horse...probably why he is not likely to go now

doodles
18-06-08, 08:44 PM
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we are all missing the bloody point. Surely if they are good enough to be olympic shortlisted then everyone should get some credit for their riding and their horses ability? :crazy

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Well said. Couldn't agree more. It's so easy to sit at a computer and criticise, but everyone on the list has earned their place there.